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dhbearguy ([personal profile] dhbearguy) wrote2007-02-02 09:29 am

Dear Bikers

As I said, no matter where the right turn is, there can be a car on bike action!


This morning at Gough and Market, the location you have to turn right in your car since you can't turn right at Octavia.

[identity profile] dr-scott.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
My brother is a porfessional intermodal transportation safety expert. It's fair to say drivers and cyclists both have a large percentage of idiots. It's not rare for right-on-redders to feel they have the right-of-way even with cars. It's not rare for cyclists to fail to stop at lights and stop signs, or to come up from behind at speed and get creamed by a car turning right who could hardly be expected to see them in the blind spot. That said, the prohibition of right turns for the ramp was part of the political compromise, and not a rational decision.

[identity profile] squalidbear.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
As a motorcyclist and ex-cyclist, one of the most frustrating things is that so many motorists are apparently unaware that they have turn signals. Turn signals can be a real life saver when a decision needs to be made as to which side of the vehicle to pass.

[identity profile] dr-scott.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Until the day when autos won't turn unless there's been a signal, or we get thousands of extra cops ticketing nonsignallers, you have to assume the worst, which means slowing down and being able to stop before you'd hit a car unexpectedly turning. Sucks, don't it? You expect anything to change? :-)

[identity profile] squalidbear.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, you're totally right. As I've got older, I've managed to do that whole slowing down thing. I still think that stupid people should be ticketed.

Police Force

[identity profile] sfmini.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
They keep saying they can't afford the manpower to keep such traffic control going. BS. At $100 a ticket if a cop can't write 16 in an 8 hour shift he's blind. That works out to be about $400k for one officer revenue-wise. Seems like it's more revenue than expense, even when you take into account the salary, vehicle and personnel costs.