Dear Bikers

[dhbearguy]

As I said, no matter where the right turn is, there can be a car on bike action!


This morning at Gough and Market, the location you have to turn right in your car since you can't turn right at Octavia.

Comments

[squalidbear.livejournal.com]

Oh, those poor cyclists... if only they could learn to use their brakes...

I think we should pay a few hundred million to build a lovely elevated faerie bridge parallel to Market St, that only cyclists could use...

[dr-scott.livejournal.com]

The politics of the city are such that if it's a *convenience* for drivers, it's bad. Everyone should be forced to bike and use Muni. This means 100K people have to move into the city, but this is no problem because rent-controlled affordable housing will spring up all over town, welcomed with open arms by those people who otherwise never saw a new building that wasn't a hazard to their carefully-crafted neighborhoods.

[realaustinman.livejournal.com]

So for non-locals, what's the issue? are bikes ignoring the red? are cars ignoring a no-right-on-red? or is it just kinda that the cars aren't looking for the bikes that have right of way?

[greggjim.livejournal.com]

And I've noticed that a good half of the drivers who don't use their turn signals are on their friggin' cell phones. Oh, but wait, California is soon to get a law outlawing talking on the cell....and fining all of $25 for violators. A toothless law for the drivers and the cops expected to stop anyone. It should be $250 as it has been in New York for years.

[markosf.livejournal.com]

In a country designed around the combustion engine, San Francisco thankfully has some reprieve from the usual lack of foresight. Anyone who has been to Amsterdam or any number of European cities knows how much more live-able cities are when they don't put the automobile first.

That said, the solution of no right turn from Market onto the freeway at Octavia makes little sense. The better solution to prevent people from being killed, is to have the traffic light allow pedestrians and bicyclists to cross while all directions of auto traffic are stopped. There are several intersections downtown that already behave in this manner.